Me:so i was wondering if i could get your account for why you say ma.gnolia is "more social"
Me:and what it is about it that you personally like more than del.icio.us
Me:if you dont mind sharing
Lisa McMillan:not at all. it has the same functionality of delicious, except that it also allows for discussion in the groups, rating the bookmarks, thanking for the bookmarks, and has what appears to be a more active development (more features more regularly)
Me:what is the value you get out of ma.gnolia as a service?
Lisa McMillan:and, it's audience seems to be more my crowd
Lisa McMillan:define value
Lisa McMillan:as opposed to delicious?
Me:if you were to sum up what it is that you personally get out of using the site what would you say
Me:on its own not related to del.icio.us
Lisa McMillan:it has a stronger community. i get just as much from my contacts as i do from myself
Me:yes, but deep down what do you "get"
Lisa McMillan:resources
Lisa McMillan:links to the most current articles
Lisa McMillan:recommendations
Me:so do you use it primarily through the website then?
Lisa McMillan:ya, i was actually just thinking about getting into their api last night
Lisa McMillan:i bet delicious is more robust there
Lisa McMillan:haven't had a blog in so long, haven't needed it
Lisa McMillan:however, I do think the feed is better - screenshots, rating, etc
Me:i ask because i've been reading a few articles by Bokardo (at the top here: http://del.icio.us/zachhale)
Lisa McMillan:ya, i've read that a few times
Me:really?
Me:do the ratings really tempt you one way or another?
Lisa McMillan:from the right people, ya they do
Lisa McMillan:not everyone uses them
Me:interesting
Lisa McMillan:so for example, if factoryjoe rates something i'm interested
Me:does ma.gnolia have a feature to tag each bookmark with a list of users whom you would personally recommend the article to?
Lisa McMillan:there's a 'send to' group or contact feature, ya
Me:do yo uuse it?
Lisa McMillan:not as much as i should, but that's about to change. i'm working on doing more of that now that i'm a 'featured linker' and i'm getting my blog back online
Me:haha
Me:i'm trying to do the same, make better use of social bookmarking and get my blog back online
Lisa McMillan:my brain doesn't really work at more than 140 characters at a time right now. trying to fix that
Lisa McMillan:;)
Me:hehe
Me:twitter is amazing, isnt it?
Lisa McMillan:no kidding
Me:i had no idea what i was getting into
Lisa McMillan:between twitter, facebook and tumblr i'm running out of free time
Me:what's your tumblr?
Lisa McMillan:lisamac!
Lisa McMillan:http://lisamac.tumblr.com
Me:found it
Me:i finally had an epiphany and realized that tumblelog is a whole medium in itself and not a stream of content of mine like i had been using it before. removed all my feeds and i'm starting to use it as a twitter < tumblr < blog space
Me:like it should be used
Me:i'm http://tumble.zachhale.com
Lisa McMillan:i've been following you for a while :)
Me:i asked about ma.gnolia because i can't seem to see with all of the reasons I can come up that del.icio.us provides me value that ma.gnolia does it in any way better or easier
Me:haha oh. :)
Me:i have to thank you for your crazy flickr app installing madness though
Lisa McMillan:hahah
Me:most the apps i try are ones i see you try through my news feed
Lisa McMillan:awesome! i get most of mine from factoryjoe, so we're all in it together :)
Me:heh
Me:i try to keep my profile as lean as possible but i've still got tons of crap
Lisa McMillan:amen to that
Me:and i cant come to remove my lolcat ...
Me:so you just feed everything into tumblr through feeds, huh?
Lisa McMillan:lol i have it hiding in my apps, but not on my profile
Lisa McMillan:yup
Lisa McMillan:everything except twitter and lastfm, cuz it would be too big
Me:i just removed auto-feeding like that
Me:merlin's tumblr turned me away from that sort of activity
Lisa McMillan:oh ya?
Me:i made http://stream.zachhale.com for all my streaming needs
Lisa McMillan:ya i saw that
Lisa McMillan:i just think its nice to be able to point people to everything i think is cool in one place. let me know if it feels like too much k?
Me:okay i'll test it out. i just added it to nnw
Lisa McMillan:sweet! thanks
Lisa McMillan:you'll probably find you can stop watching anything else of mine now
Me:exactly
Lisa McMillan:sucks for stats
Lisa McMillan:for me
Lisa McMillan:i wonder if i could put ganalytics on it
Lisa McMillan:hm
Me:yeah you can!
Me:i run mine through feedburner too
Lisa McMillan:interesting
Lisa McMillan:k
Lisa McMillan:smartie
Me::)
Me:i was asking all of those questions about ma.gnolia because i'm just completely blown away by del.icio.us and it's slick implementation of everything that I'm trying to see what it is about ma.gnolia that makes people turn
Lisa McMillan:i was a HUGE delicious fanboy. Ma.gnolia is really worth looking at. I think if all the people I follow hadn't switched, i might have stuck around. When it's community driven, it's hard not to follow people to the app. Oh! and the facebook ma.gnolia app is WAY better
Me:i know i'm being pessimistic but I can't but think that people join it just because it's the "cool guy" in the social bookmarking space regardless of what it actually provides them out of the application. Well, that and the screenshots.
Me:i just havent seen what it is ...
Lisa McMillan:it really is a preference
Lisa McMillan:i think if i felt like yahoo was doing more with delicious i'd be more inclined to look again
Me:the user profile is more of the focus on ma.gnolia so it feels a lot more like other social networking sites ... which is an interesting distinct difference it has
Lisa McMillan:and i likely will
Lisa McMillan:definitely
Me:but i don't see the user profile as even the smallest bit of something I'd use or can envision using since not only are they inefficient with how many bookmarks are shown but I get everything from rss anyways
Lisa McMillan:i hear that. the thing that you lose in rss is the connections other people are making
Me:what are these connections you speak of? just friendships through the social networking aspect of the site?
Lisa McMillan:yup
Lisa McMillan:i'm a big geek that way
Lisa McMillan:it's how i have these huge contact lists
Lisa McMillan:i pay attention to who other people are following
Me:hmm
Lisa McMillan:and oddly, i'm living more in the browser than the feedreader these days
Lisa McMillan:twitter gives me a LOT of what i'd get in nnw
Lisa McMillan:if and only if i have the right people in my list
Me:yeah... which is sometimes a frustrating over-duplication
Lisa McMillan:exactly
Me:do you use magnolia as more of a publish this as a content stream here and now or more as a place you come back to to re-reference things?
Lisa McMillan:both
Lisa McMillan:started as publishing
Lisa McMillan:but i've found myself searching lately
Me:yeah, see i've been using del.icio.us for a long time and only the last 5 months or so have I started to appreciate the re-finding features. it's kind of weird how drastic the value-adds change for me now
Lisa McMillan:ya. and i'll tell ya. i REALLY miss the firefox plugin / syncing with delicious. But I'm on safari now so I would have lost it nayway
Lisa McMillan:anyway
Lisa McMillan:not nayway gah
Me:yeah and that's the thing. now that i'm more of a re-finder user of del.icio.us i appreciate it's great tools like the firefox plugins
Me:i'm ranting ... haha
Lisa McMillan:ya, it was a decision i made. The one thing keeping me from switching from firefox to safari was that plugin. But when i found magnolia, i thought i'd try it for a week. And when i did, i loved it.
Lisa McMillan:didn't feel like i was missing anything
Me:well thanks for sharing your thoughts :)
Lisa McMillan:any time at all
Lisa McMillan::)
Me:these are interesting discussions
Lisa McMillan:see, if we had viable blogs, we could do this publicly ;)
